williamsh 365 #1 Posted December 4, 2018 (edited) Hey everyone So we are all familiar with martingale, whereby you hunt a payout with about a 50% (or around there - you get variations of this technique). The idea is that it will be impossible to lose forever on a 50% payout, due to the fact that a win must come at some point. So, in order to make profit, on every loss you double your previous bet (i.e. 1,2,4,8,16,32) and start at your base bet when you win. This works well, but you will lose in the long run, since you can expect losses of 20 in a row if you gamble for a long time (likewise, you can expect wins of 20 in a row). So most people don't have enough balance to make this work profitably. And that brings me to my twist - Preroll until you get 7 or 8 losses in a row, and then bet 10,000 satoshis (as an example), and double this upon a loss.This way, you should only have to double a few times before you win. To be more conservative, you can wait for 10+ losses in a row. So what do you guys think, will you try this preroll variation of martingale? Of course it is not fool-proof and you can bust, but let me know what you think about it, and if you think it is a solid strategy Edited December 4, 2018 by williamsh 1 bigbrankx reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Noeprellik1 345 #2 Posted December 4, 2018 Since I play from mobile and didnt use any bot, its take a lot of time for me to find a momentum of 7-8losses in a row. But I think its a good strategy to find 7-8 losses in a row on 2.0 payout and then bet big. Still its not a guarantee to win Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
williamsh 365 #3 Posted December 9, 2018 On 04/12/2018 at 07:27, Noeprellik1 said: But I think its a good strategy to find 7-8 losses in a row on 2.0 payout and then bet big. Still its not a guarantee to win Yeah, nothing is guaranteed unfortunately. However, I think that out of a lot of the variations that exist Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kristoffff 235 #4 Posted December 10, 2018 Eventually even your prerolls will not be enough to avoid getting bust. That's why I never really play 2x payout, but always atleast a little more (like 2.36x) You can be lucky and roll millions of rolls without never seeing 35+reds but u can get them on your first session aswell... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sourc3code 206 #5 Posted December 10, 2018 This seems like it would be a very inefficient method of playing. So you are going to wait for 7-10 reds every time before betting? Unless you are betting high high wager, it would take all day to go through enough bets to make you enough profit for this to be worth it. Martingale really isn't ever a good strategy unless you are using it for short term play. There's a reason why its also known as martingfail. I have seen this strategy used and work with HR betsm but dont expect much results from a few hundred or thousand sat bets. If you really are interested in using martingale, look up possibly integrating a modified reverse martingale into your strategy. 1 MrNice23 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Br1 22 #6 Posted December 11, 2018 no matter how many freeroll you made you can still get losing streaks that can eat your entire balance Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VladImpaler 1 #7 Posted December 16, 2018 Not a bad method, but I use it at higher payouts. Here it works better Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NotBlaze 1 #8 Posted December 18, 2018 It would take a lot of time and not much profit unless you wanna risk it because it still doesn't guarantee the win Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dicyprime 19 #9 Posted January 9, 2019 I've simulated something like this before, basically your bets, no matter what you wait for or what came before that, will be in their own distribution. Sometimes it will work like a charm but in the long run expect same results as playing without waiting for anything. Some people love pre roll though. Biggest benefit is that you wait so long, it makes betting slower, and much longer to bust. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrNice23 446 #10 Posted January 9, 2019 (edited) Well i think this can take you a lot of time before seeing 7-10 reds coming , in my opinion martingale is not for long runs , use it only for short ones then switch for high multipliers better i guess. Good luck! Edited January 9, 2019 by MrNice23 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LuciferMS 12 #11 Posted January 9, 2019 x2 often drops to 30 red. the average length of the red on this coefficient is 15. I see no reason to keep it up to 8, and then start doubling. There may be another 22 red ahead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Destiny1872 6 #12 Posted January 9, 2019 My opinion on this is fixed if you keep on rolling with the same strategy for long,a time will come when all will be gone. So there is no perfect strategy for long run, we need to keep on changing our strategy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JstLikeMagyk 157 #13 Posted March 29, 2019 I've run into a 49 red L streak using martingale not sure how much pre rolling matters to be honest. Each roll is in itself an individual instance of gambling there is no patterns or trends to follow like some would lead you to believe that would completely undermine the verifiable roll system. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
williamsh 365 #14 Posted April 3, 2019 On 30/03/2019 at 00:05, JstLikeMagyk said: I've run into a 49 red L streak using martingale not sure how much pre rolling matters to be honest. Each roll is in itself an individual instance of gambling there is no patterns or trends to follow like some would lead you to believe that would completely undermine the verifiable roll system. To be honest with you, if you got 49 reds in a row on dice 2x, I think it is safe to assume that those bet outcomes were 100% rigged. Did this happen on Primedice or another website? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UltraChief 1,489 #15 Posted April 3, 2019 1 hour ago, williamsh said: To be honest with you, if you got 49 reds in a row on dice 2x, I think it is safe to assume that those bet outcomes were 100% rigged. Did this happen on Primedice or another website? Its theoretically possible to get infinite reds on any multiplier. But its rare to get such but always possible. The best way to check if rolls are rigged or not is to verify them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Denjah 3 #16 Posted April 8, 2019 it will consume a lot of time, even if you use dice bot and set it to change bet when 7 losses in a row. Try using dicebot and set the settings for it to be easy., Thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brazzers2019 1 #17 Posted April 8, 2019 balance may not be enough even if you wait for 10 red. good luck here it would be so simple everyone would be millionaires Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites