Do you think pd could be rigged? (No)

[Cat4Life 43]

So  if you came here...i guess you think it rigged but NO its not rigged.

well its provable fair. But why would you lose (we often think its rigged after we bust) :

1. 1% house edge.  (Looks not a loy but it is)(So if you wager like  1btc you  (lets say you have 1 ) so you should have 0.99 btc now if you have still 1 btc..thats lucky. If less then unlucky.
2. We  dont stop to bet.
3. We  Start raging sometimes.

P.S 1.0102x is bad becouse you will have 98% so 2% would be to lose but you get only 0.01x  profit.  So tax is 50%.

 

 

[Earthman 11]

This keyword "provably fair" is often used to "prove" it's fair but in fact it doesn't mean anything. Simple question - how do you even know if "third party" sites when you can "verify" bets are not owned by Edward? The one and only way to prove the algorithm is fair is to make code public and being able to be reviewed by anyone. Till the code is not open, any claims about its "fairness" are just pure bullshit. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. No way to know.

Edited November 12, 2018 by Earthman

[Noeprellik1 278]

Since there is no evidence or claim from someone that PD is is rigged, I assume the outcome roll number is fair

[williamsh 163]

4 hours ago, Earthman said:

This keyword "provably fair" is often used to "prove" it's fair but in fact it doesn't mean anything. Simple question - how do you even know if "third party" sites when you can "verify" bets are not owned by Edward? The one and only way to prove the algorithm is fair is to make code public and being able to be reviewed by anyone. Till the code is not open, any claims about its "fairness" are just pure bullshit. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. No way to know.

The rolls can be verified on external websites, so it is impossible for the bets to be rigged.

[Serlite 344]

12 hours ago, Earthman said:

This keyword "provably fair" is often used to "prove" it's fair but in fact it doesn't mean anything. Simple question - how do you even know if "third party" sites when you can "verify" bets are not owned by Edward? The one and only way to prove the algorithm is fair is to make code public and being able to be reviewed by anyone. Till the code is not open, any claims about its "fairness" are just pure bullshit. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. No way to know.

Got good news, actually! The JavaScript code for calculating rolls is publicly available, check out https://primedice.com/verify/how-to-verify.

All you need to do is start up a Node.js server (you can either host an instance on your own computer or there are sites online that let you execute whatever code you want on theirs), and plug in the values from a previous seed pair. If you've got some JavaScript knowledge, you could even expand it to verify a whole run of numbers (e.g. All the numbers between two nonce values) and have create your own fully-fledged verification application.

[Dan 871]

I want to just add an important bit of contribution to this discussion:

Just because a site claims to be provably fair, or have some other version of a fairness algorithm in place, doesn't guarantee they aren't rigging their outcomes. You can easily fool players by branding something as provably fair, but its truly not provably fair until you verify your own bets. I know understanding the concept of provably fair is tough for the average player to grasp, so asking experienced gamblers who understand how it works is also a good strategy to ensure the site you are playing on is operating fairly.

I suggest checking out fairness validators on 3rd party sites such as https://dicesites.com to confirm your bets are in fact not manipulated. 

Staying safe relies on players not being lazy or blindly trusting the site. Be vigilant where you gamble and always ensure you verify your bets and do so consistently. That is the only true way to ensure you aren't being taken advantage of by any operator.

[PKan 8]

provably fair casinos have hashed server seeds. When you revel it you can check fairness of rolls

14 hours ago, Cat4Life said:

So  if you came here...i guess you think it rigged but NO its not rigged.

I am replaying on this because it is first thread on "Recent Discussions" lol

[hillowner45 10]

Primedice has spent so long building its reputation of transparency which is the number one factor in a player's decision when choosing a crypto casino to gamble at, so to throw that out the window now would be stupid. But ya never know those days, so make sure you keep verifying those bets!

[dikarico 181]

If PD can indeed be rigged and unfair there will be many javascript hackers that use it, but so far I have never read that PD is being hacked. All roll numbers are mathematical calculations that can be formulated